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  • Originally posted by Eimantas Peržiūrėti pranešimą
    O kažkoks kiekis Viešojo saugumo tarnybai netiktų? Nes nuvažiuoti su VW Transporter kokiems futbolo fanams į kuprą užmesti užtenka, o jei koks reikalas su "šachtininkais", diversine grupe ir t.t.? Užtektų pratraukti iš pasalos su senais AKM ir tokie reikalai....
    Mano nuomone, tai ne, VST reikėtų visai kitų mašinų. Šitos suvalgytų biudžetą, pasijustų jų trūkumai, o privalumai iLT sąlygomis panaudoti nebūtų

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    • Originally posted by ARTY Peržiūrėti pranešimą
      Taigi pasirodo lenkai tuos MRAP naudos karo policijai ir spec pajėgoms. Na dėl spec pajėgų nežinau bet karo policijai tikrai atrodo tinkamas aparatas.
      Ir vienareikšmiškai bus skirti TO.

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      • Originally posted by EPP Peržiūrėti pranešimą

        Mano nuomone, tai ne, VST reikėtų visai kitų mašinų. Šitos suvalgytų biudžetą, pasijustų jų trūkumai, o privalumai iLT sąlygomis panaudoti nebūtų
        O kokių reiktų? Tiesiog klasikinių šarvuotų sunkvežimių?

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        • 683,4 mln. zlotų = ~143 mln. EUR.

          Lietuva už JAV rinkimo Black Hawk moka 181 mln. EUR. Skirtumas nedidelis, galimas dalykas, kad pranešimuose skirtingai įtraukiant/ neįtraukiant PVM.

          https://defence24.com/defence24-day-...-sof-component

          Head of the Polish Ministry of Defence Announces Procurement of Further Black Hawk Helicopters for the SOF Component

          During the meeting yesterday, the Technical Modernization Council made a decision on procurement of another four S-70i Black Hawk helicopters for the SOF component, announced head of the Polish Ministry of Defence Mariusz Błaszczak, during the Defence24 DAY conference.

          During his opening speech at the Defence24 DAY conference, Mariusz Błaszczak announced that the Technical Modernization Council made a decision on procurement of another four S-70i Black Hawk helicopters for the SOF component.

          The first agreement for delivery of helicopters for the SOF component signed in January 2019 pertained to four Black Hawk helicopters delivered by PZL Mielec, along with a logistics/training package and extra equipment. The total value of the agreement is defined as PLN 683.4 million (gross). The helicopters - in the basic configuration - were delivered in 2019. The extra equipment was to be installed after the actual delivery. The details on the configuration of the Polish SOF's Black Hawk helicopters are unknown. It is known, however, that they have been modified to carry armament, including cabin-mounted machine guns.

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          • Originally posted by AurimasLT Peržiūrėti pranešimą
            683,4 mln. zlotų = ~143 mln. EUR.

            Lietuva už JAV rinkimo Black Hawk moka 181 mln. EUR. Skirtumas nedidelis, galimas dalykas, kad pranešimuose skirtingai įtraukiant/ neįtraukiant PVM.
            Bazinė konfigūracija. Manau jie perka tik sraigtasparnius. Kiek matėme JAV siūlymą Lietuvai mums bus parduoti net šoviniai, o tai turi sukelti kainas.

            The Government of Lithuania has requested to buy six (6) UH-60M Black Hawk helicopters in standard U.S. Government configuration with designated unique equipment and Government Furnished Equipment (GFE) with fourteen (14) T700-GE-701D engines (12 installed and 2 spares); eight (8) AN/AAR-57 Common Missile Warning System (CMWS) (6 production and 2 spares); twelve (12) M240H machine guns. Also included are fifteen (15) EAGLE +429 Embedded Global Positioning/Inertial Navigation (EGI) System (12 production and 3 spares); eight (8) AN/APX-123A Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) transponder (6 production and 2 spares); fifteen (15) AN/ARC-201D (twelve (12) production and three (3) spares); fifteen (15) AN/ARC-231 radios (12 production and 3 spares); eight (8) AN/ARC-220 radios (6 production and 2 spares); two (2) VRC-100 HF Radio Ground Stations (1 for primary operations and 1 spares); eight (8) AN/AVR-2B Laser Warning Receiver (6 production and 2 spares); twelve (12) Common Missile Warning System (CMWS) User Data Module (UDM); eight (8) TALON Forward Looking Infrared Radar (TALON FLIR) (6 production and 2 spares); eight (8) EBC-406 Emergency Locator Transmitter (6 production and 2 spares); thirty (30) AN/AVS-6 Military Grade Night Vision Goggles; fifteen (15) AN/AVS-7 Improved Heads Up Display (IHUD) (Day) (12 for primary aircrew and 3 spares); fifteen (15) AN/AVS-7 Improved Heads Up Display (IHUD (Night) (12 for primary aircrew and 3 spares); five hundred (500) 1305-A965, CTG, 25.4mm, decoy M839; eight hundred (800) flare, aircraft, countermeasure, M206; thirty-eight thousand four hundred (38,400) 7.62mm, 4 Ball, M80, 1 Tracer, Linked A; eight (8) cartridge, impulse, MH44-0; twenty-four (24) cartridge, aircraft fire extinguisher; eight (8) cartridge, impulse, CCU-92/A; one thousand four hundred forty (1,440) cartridge, impulse, BBU-35/B; aircraft warranty, air worthiness support, spare and repair parts, support equipment, communication equipment, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, ground support equipment, site surveys, tool and test equipment, Security Assistance Training Field Activity (SATFA) Aviation Courses, Technical Assistance Fielding Team (TAFT), U.S. Government and contractor technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of program, technical and logistics support. The total estimated program cost is $380 million. https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/maj...wk-helicopters
            Last edited by RAm; 14 November 2021, 21:04.

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            • Originally posted by Eimantas Peržiūrėti pranešimą

              O kokių reiktų? Tiesiog klasikinių šarvuotų sunkvežimių?
              VST reikia paprastų, lengvai šarvuotų automobilių, kurie pervežtų ne 4, o šiek tiek daugiau pareigūnų, kad viduje būtų pakankamai erdvės įrangai ir ekipuotei, o būtent to MRAP ir neturi. labai gerai tokios klasės šarvuotos mašinos kaip kad VST turi dabar, tik nors truputėlį kokybiškesnės gamybos nei įsigytos

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              • Originally posted by ARTY Peržiūrėti pranešimą
                Taigi pasirodo lenkai tuos MRAP naudos karo policijai ir spec pajėgoms. Na dėl spec pajėgų nežinau bet karo policijai tikrai atrodo tinkamas aparatas.
                Lenkams labai trūksta šarvuotų visureigių, tai geriau MRAP, nei nudėvėti vietinės gamybos automobiliukai

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                • Defence24 DAY: Head of the Polish Ministry of Defence Announces Procurement of Further Black Hawk Helicopters for the SOF Component

                  https://www.defence24.com/defence24-...-sof-component

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                  • Poland Indicated Preference for SHORAD missile

                    https://www.defence24.com/poland-ind...shorad-missile

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                    • Virusai žvalgams

                      Wirusy trafiły do służby


                      https://www.defence24.pl/wirusy-juz-w-sluzbie

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                      • Originally posted by Eimantas Peržiūrėti pranešimą
                        Virusai žvalgams

                        Wirusy trafiły do służby

                        https://www.defence24.pl/wirusy-juz-w-sluzbie
                        Nedidukės mašinytės, bet didžiausias trūkumas - jokios rimtesnės stebėjimo įrangos

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                        • Ne veltui sakoma - kiekvienas kaimas turi savo durnelį...

                          Prie sienos su Baltarusija patruliavęs lenkų karys dezertyravo ir paprašė ten prieglobsčio
                          https://www.15min.lt, 2021.12.18

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                          • Data leak from the Polish army. The Ministry of National Defense comments on Onet’s reports


                            The portal said that the military data disclosed in the network amounted to 1,757,390 entries. “To show the scale of the leak, suffice it to say that the firearms up to 30mm caliber, their parts and instrumentation alone amount to 2,800 items. Each item, or record, is the reported need of each unit for equipment – from complete F-16s, through heavy weapons, its parts, ammunition, spare parts, uniforms, underwear, blankets and computer equipment, and even banners and diplomas “- it was written.


                            According to Onet, the detailed state of ownership of the entire Polish army, as well as its lack of equipment, emerges from the more than 1.7 million disclosed records. “From the census, for example, it is possible to determine which equipment is not operational or what the Polish army is missing” – writes the portal.

                            https://news.tvs-24.com/news/199013.html



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